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Bookmobile Discussion Post for INSURGENT

Welcome to YA Highway's Bookmobile celebration for INSURGENT by Veronica Roth. What did you think about Tris and Four's adventures and battles this time around? Spoiler warnings are in effect!

Don't forget to join us at 6pm PST/9pm EST for a live chat, right here on YA Highway, with author Veronica Roth. Chat post will go live just moments before the official chat time, using CoverItLive.

So what did you think about INSURGENT? Post below and join the conversation!


 Also, get ready, get set . . . June's BOOKMOBILE read is A MIDSUMMER'S NIGHTMARE by Kody Keplinger!
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  1. I really enjoyed the complex relationship between Tris and Four. It didn't turn all lovey-dovey as soon as they were together but it had its trials and tribulations as all real relationships have (Okay, they might have been intensified by not-so-normal circumstance but still!). & of course the ending was just awesomely jaw-dropping!

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  2. I very much appreciate the reality of the Tris/Four relationship. The slow build in Divergent made me feel like I was experiencing a high school crush again, and then working through the very real issues of trust in Insurgent reminded me of a "we're in it for the long haul" kind of connection. Thanks for writing!

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  3. I agree on the relationship. I loved that it wasn't all sunshine and roses. I thought the ending was a great twist, especially Caleb's part.

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  4. As everyone already said, especially the down-to-earth reality of Tris and Four's relationship made the book seem that much more realistic. I half expected them to kiss and make up really soon, but it wasn't like that at all, and the tension was still there even after a while like so many relationships in real life. Trust was broken and that takes a while to heal, which was perfectly written down and narrated by Veronica.

    Another thing I loved was Tris' perseverance and courage to do what she knows will not be accepted by Four, but she also knows it's the only way to find out the truth of what's going on. She was in a constant struggle and that made her seem so much stronger as a person.

    The Caleb-twist, I did not see coming, but loved it nonetheless. I wonder how their conversation will go when they meet each other again.

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  5. I thought Insurgent was crazy intense. The characters really developed well and you could see them realistically cracking under the depressing pressure of war. The tension and flaws in Tris/Tobias's relationship were understandable, but I'm not going to lie and say it wasn't sad. Because it was. Very sad, actually. :( Anyway. I loved the introduction of new characters, the insight of different factions, and seeing where each character's loyalty was. I'm convinced that I'll love anything and everything Veronica Roth writes.

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  6. I'm hoping Tobias will at least have a little more faith in Tris when she has her theories from now on. But there's more tension to come in their relationship.

    I love Tris' courage as well. She's willing to sacrifice her relationships to find the truth and follow her leads. She knows her own mind and won't let anyone else make her believe her instinct is wrong.

    I've always been wondering about grandparents and the rest of the world. There was always some off about how no-one mentioned how other cities or countries did with factions. Like Chicago was completely isolated from everywhere else. I'm glad the secret information was publicised. I was worried there'd be a huge cliffhanger at the end, right before we were about to get told.

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  7. I'm still trying to deal with caleb's betrayal but i loved how there was twist around every corner and how you finally get to see who some people really are, like peter and caleb. i think you did an amazing job on this book. i just love tris and tobias's relationship cause they aren't all loved up and sometimes they do fights and make mistakes. they are really easy to relate too. The tension through the book was unbelievable and you have a strong fanbase on tumblr. I love you and the trilogy!

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  8. I struggled with the "dome society"/"sealed experiment" twist. In some ways, I felt like this undermined the worldbuilding that Veronica so carefully pieced together for Tris's Chicago. I also don't know if I buy that people outside of the "sealed experiment" didn't change their mind and want the technology that Tris's "state" developed. I'm interested in the third book to find out these answers but I felt a little jiped at the end.
    I also found Tris's character to be weaker than I wanted. I missed Divergent Tris, but I get the impression I'm the only one. I wasn't upset with Four/Tris's relationship...just mostly with the characterization. I am surprised by Four/Tobias's doubt of Tris and Tris's frequent bouts of...I'm not sure what to call it. When she is petulant. She felt very inconsistent...moments of strength at parts, and very childish elsewhere.

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    1. Perhaps her personality inconsistencies are part of her being a 16-year old...

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    2. Nah, you know, I can see what Writing with Cats is saying. In Divergent, Tris came off as stronger in a very "show don't tell" way. (Count to five and move on. Don't cry in front of these people - they'll think I'm weak.) In this one, I kind of felt like a lot of the sarcasm and "witty banter" was forced between her and Four, and that personality quirks were put in that hadn't been seen before - with all characters. I would've preferred Divergent's personalities. The strong but silent types. (I almost feel as though one of Divergent's criticisms were "the characters didn't have enough personality!" and so personality was forced upon them, but I would've preferred the barely-any-personality characters to the kind of City of Bones-esque thing that was happening with Tris and Four.)

      Ayearofmommy, while 16-year-olds can be inconsistent, characters can't (unless the author makes it clear that this is what they're doing.) So yeah, I also get that her character was super inconsistent.

      I'll be honest (and I'm only saying this because Ms. Roth said she wouldn't peak on twitter!): I didn't like Insurgent as much. To me, Divergent's strength wasn't in the plotting, but in intense character interactions and relationships, and the motivations spurring characters to do bad things, like Peter stabbing Edward in the eye, and Al committing suicide, and Eric wanting to shoot Four in the head... Those moments were INTENSE.

      But Insurgent tried to focus more on plot and action-action-action, not as much on those intense character interactions and character motivations. So when we got to Peter saving Tris's life, I didn't understand his motivation or why he'd do that; when we got to Caleb betraying her, I didn't understand his motivations, I could understand his motivations for choosing Erudite! That was a great twist in Divergent that sucked me right in! But here, it didn't seem to work as much. Also, I wasn't as interested in the characters who were sacrificed in Insurgent. There were many, and I can't distinguish them, which means I didn't care about them or their deaths.

      I do definitely applaud Ms. Roth, though, even though she's (hopefully!) not reading this. Writing and publishing under immense pressure is a huge accomplishment! I'm struggling just to write, and I'm the only person giving myself pressure. x_x This definitely isn't to be a troll, or to put negative energy into the conversation. I just like sharing my opinion. :)

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  9. I loved so much about the book, including the internal struggle that Tris has with herself over her grief and guilt. I loved the Amity peace serum scene, and I loved the bath scene between Tris and Four. The whole, circling back to Abengation's initiation customs was really moving.

    The only thing I would have changed is that, as a reader, I could have used a bit of downtime. It was so fast paced, that I think there could have been a bit of room for things to settle, let the reader digest, before surging onwards.

    I think she's a remarkably talented young author, and I very much look forward to reading the third installment.

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  10. Will Veronica Roth herself be around for the chat? I want to ask a few questions.

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  11. I thought the plot was brilliant. I loved how Tris and Tobias had some fights and actually seemed like a real couple. I also loved the ending, it made me say oh my gosh five thousand times. Veronica Roth is an amazing author and she captured all of the emotions beautifully!
    Insurgent was just totally awesome and I cannot wait to read the next book,

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  12. Loved Insurgent. I definitely thought it was a lot better than Divergent & Divergent was really good. I like how Tris & Four's relationship wasn't perfect & that they fought a lot. It shows that no relationship is perfect and always "Oh my gosh, I love you!" It was better than that. I really liked it.

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  13. will veronica roth answer all the questions?

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  14. Will all the questions be answered?

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  15. Amazing! Was so good I couldn't put it down. The detail was epic the obstacles Tris and her friends had to overcome.. I would never have been able to do it. I feel like Tris gained maturity in Insurgent that she used to her advantage which was brilliant. on the other hand her constant lying frustrated me, but it made for a good story. I'm not gunna lie. I cried non-stop multiple times while reading this book. It feels so real. You get so involved with the characters and story that when something happens you feel like a piece of your heart was just ripped out. The ending was the best ending that I have ever read, ever. I finished it at 10 at night and had to call my friend, who had just finished the book that afternoon, and scream with her for 5 minutes straight. Yeah. Amazing! Tobias and Tris forever!

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  16. hey i was just wondering when and where you will be for the dark days tour when youre in chicago and evanston

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  17. Insurgent was so stressful for me! It was such a rollercoaster of emotions with so much happening. I loved it. The characters are so REAL. It was difficult for me to reconcile the part of me that wanted Tris and Tobias to have that fairy-tale ending that they so deserve, with the part of me that expected issues. I'm glad Veronica is realistic :) I had such s hard time coping with reality after finishing Insurgent that I immediately began re-reading Divergent!

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    1. Haha, me too! Im reading them for the third time now!

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  18. What I love most about Insurgent is how real it is. Each character in their own way, is very distinct and unique which makes for a great story. Lynn is probably one of my most favorite characters, she's just so original, she acts as a breath of fresh air from the rest of the story because her character is just so different. The most frustrating part, however was Tris' constant lying (even when Tobias says he loves her!), even though I know it comes together in the end. I'm obsessing over the series right now! I legit vote for Divergent in the tca's 11 times a day. I don't think I can wait a year for 'Detergent'

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  19. I absoltely adored this series! I love how, yes, it is a dystopian novel, it is unlike anything I have ever read before! The feeling I got from the end of insurgetn is that they are living their dystopian life in the midst of normal life with the rest of us and simply have no clue!! and what im guessing for the next book is that they will try and connect the two worlds, which I have never heard of before. I love how Veronica Roth is very unique in this entire story! Wether it is the character, such as lynn, or the plot, like combining dystopian and non-dystopian worlds! It is incredibe the imagination in this series and I love it!!!!! I can't wait for the next book!!!!!

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  20. Insurgent was amazing. Much better than the Hunger Games. The writing style was very engaging and the book was wonderfully fast paced. I cant wait for book 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  21. I wish I could hang until the chat with Ms. Roth, but my area is about to get a horrible thunderstorm. I should not be on my laptop in case of power surges (they have happened before). I definitely liked how Insurgent ended. Someone screamed, and then the book ended. i am interested to see the direction the third book takes. Honestly, I was not that shocked with Caleb. Maybe it is just me and my views on humanity, but Caleb had always seemed off during both books. At the end of Divergent, he was to easily convinced about Euridite being evil.

    It makes sense now how there are no old people in Dauntless. No one is really old enough (depending on when they entered the city). The whole experiment thing makes sense with how the gate is designed. They would want to keep people in the city.

    Tris's behavior makes sense to me. I view it sort of like a veteran/ soldier. They are strong when they need to be, but are torn up inside. She is a 16 year old girl who saw both of her parents die at the hands of her friends/factions. She killed a close friend of her's. She is on the run. Being Divergent, many people want her dead. I think she acted appropriately for someone of her age in her position.

    Her relationship with Four was interesting. It was put to the test in the most extreme of situations. Tey started working through it at the end of the book. It gives me hope that they will stay together in the long run.

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  23. After I read Insurgent, I re-read Divergent, and for some reason I saw Four and Tobias as two different people. They seemed so individual, divided almost.

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    1. I sort of agree. It's kind of like they're two sides of a coin that is his personality, because I think it was. Four is the guy that everyone sees; the brave, selfish guy that could run the show if he wanted to. Tobias is his selfless, but no less brave side that shows kindness and love to those Four has deemed worthy of knowing Tobias. Not that he has multiple personalities, Four is just the mask that the True Tobias wears. It's the same with Tris. Four gets glimpses of her selfless side as Beatrice, but he struggles with trying to break through her mask as simply Tris in Insurgent and that's where alot of their struggles come from... Or at least thats what I think.

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    2. Things change for him a lot in Insurgent, too. The thought of having a relationship with his mother changes him. You see the vulnerability in him. And that he keeps secrets from Tris. He was always secretive and mysterious, but you see that really shine through in Insurgent.
      He actually frustrated me more than Tris did. I wanted him to be strong, to know Evelyn was evil, to have more faith in Tris, to be honest with her. And he wasn't. I understand the motives behind his actions, but I was still frustrated with him.

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  24. Can someone please explain the ending? Didn't get it...

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    1. Veronica Roth tortured us with an evil cliff-hanger so we're like: WTF TRIS'S ANCESTOR STARTED THIS PLACE AND THE WORLD IS AT WAR AND THE ABNEGATION KNEW AND?... and?... I can't... *collapse*

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    2. Which book? I'll assume Insurgent;
      Well, Tris found out that there was a lady who started the factions. She would bury herself among them as a member of another faction. She changed her name to Edith (I'm pretty sure it was Edith) Prior. PRIOR. This means that this woman is somehow related to Tris. Edith said in the video that was presented that there would be special people who would make themselves know. These people would be Divergent. Once the Divergent where present then they where supposed to open the gate and let everyone out.
      The rest is, I guess unknown. People start shouting at the end of the book, which usually means that someone is upset. So someone has something to say, and we're gonna have to wait until sometime in 2013 to find out what it is. Hope this helped!!!

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  25. Lots of people seemed to like Insurgent better then Divergent, but I personally like Divergent better. Although I genuinely like the original book as opposed to all sequels in a general sense. Is that just me?

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    1. Usually that is me. But I prefer Insurgent. Whatevs.

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  26. Hey, if you want to answer this, my name is Cat. Thank you so much Veronica, for what you have written. I literally started to re-think life after I read your books. They hold a great value with me. Thank you so much for writing this book. I have more of a general writing question: How do you come up with the twists in the book,and when you planned the series did you know the ending of Insurgent? Or did you plot that along the way? Thank you so much :)

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  27. How do I get to the chat on a tablet?

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  28. Oh, and Veronica. One of my favorite parts of the series are the faction manifestos because I feel they truly encompass the views and values of the factons and I was wondering if you were considering giving the Divergents a manifesto of their own. I wrote one that I based off of the idea of Tobias's tattoos of you're interested...

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  29. What are Tris and Four's enneagram types and what are their strongest of Gardner's Multiple Intelligences?

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  30. Heyyy Veronica I love and am a huge fan of divergent and insurgent alongside my two friends!!! But one of my friends is obsessd with it like there's no tomorrow!!

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  31. Oh ya n forgot to say WE LOVE YOU AND YOUR WRITING!!!☺💚❤💙💜 I am the anonymouse as above. Give me a shout out by calling me the divergent(lol couldn't think if anything else)

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  32. Veronica if u send me a free divergent copy ILL LOVE U FOREVER!!!

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  33. i mean insurgent oops lol!

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  34. Heyyy SK and SV guess who(YK lol)😝

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  35. I feel that Insurgent and Divergent presented two totally different themes, of which was probably Mrs. Veronica's intention. Divergent is very psychological and it focuses a lot on how we, as human beings, live and interact. It focuses on how an enviorment can change you and about how we are naturally drawn to people who are like us. Insurgent focuses a lot on human flaws, but it also has more of that YA novel feel by adding action and a lot more physical violence from the characters. I think that "Detergent" will certainly mash the two together as it becomes a struggle to basically regain our humanity and civilation. There will totally be lots of gun action but then a lot of tension on the whole human behavior thing. This is not your average novel and I love it for that!

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  36. OH! And one more thing! Veronica, thank you. I now have the hope to follow my dream of being an author and to trying to change someone's life the way you have mine. What you have done, probably without knowing it, is amazing. Just... thank you, for everything.

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  37. I love it and you such good writing

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