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Guest Post by Courtney Allison Moulton, Plus GIVEAWAY

Posted by Kaitlin Ward Jul 8, 2010

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Today we have a guest post by the lovely and amazing Courtney Allison Moulton, YA author represented by Elizabeth Jote of Objective Entertainment. Her debut, ANGELFIRE, will be released by HarperCollins/Katherine Tegan Books on February 15, 2011. You can find her on twitter, her website, and her blog.

Good Guys vs. Bad Boys--or, is there an Option C?
Courtney Allison Moulton

Will
I’ve noticed that people tend to group guys into two categories, the good guys and the bad boys. Frankly, that’s a little boring to me. Why does a guy have to be one or the other? Despite making a character and his story pretty predictable, it raises concerns about the ideas we’re giving teen girls. I’m of the opinion that two people in a relationship should respect one another and stand on equal ground, so I suppose you could call me a feminist by definition. With a good guy, you don’t want a doormat to be stomped all over and have no spark or depth to his character. With a bad boy, you don’t want a jerk who’s going to disrespect you or even become dangerous. I’ve read a number of mind-blowing blogs this past year addressing “rape culture” in YA in the past year, and that is a terrifying thought. We don’t want to teach girls to disrespect the person they love, or to let that person disrespect them.

So, how can we avoid letting our lit guys fall into one of those categories? The answer: don’t write a guy to be a good guy or a bad boy. Write a real person who has his faults and strengths just like any normal guy you’d meet in real life. This enables Option C to be vast, probably even limitless.

Cadan
I’ll tell you what my preferred Option C is: a good guy who’s a badass. Will from my YA novel ANGELFIRE is a good guy, but he is, quite literally, a badass. But then again, could a hot guy who slices and dices soul-stealing demonic reapers with a big freaking sword be anything but a badass?

The tricky part with his character is that his good guy-ness has to be carefully balanced with his badass-ness. He is my main character Ellie’s Guardian, an immortal bodyguard who is sworn to defend her at any cost in battle, but he is also a servant who must obey her. For five hundred years, he has been devoted to her and has fallen in love with her as she has lived and died a thousand lives as the only hope for humankind against the reapers. Ellie takes him for granted sometimes since she’s not perfect either, and Will has to stand on his own as a strong character despite his purpose and desire to put her before his own life. In battle, he is the ultimate badass and in the real world, he doesn’t quite know how to function like a normal person. Fighting is all he really understands and he tries to do what he believes is best, whether it’s right or wrong.

So who wants a guy who is just a good guy or just a bad boy? Throw some unpredictability in there, something different to keep a lit guy from just falling into a category. Give your good guy a bit of an edge to keep our hearts pounding, and make sure your bad boy isn’t just a douchebag sex pest.

~Courtney Moulton


And accompanying Courtney's guest post is a giveaway of her YA fantasy debut, ANGELFIRE--signed by the author! All you have to do to enter is fill out the form below. And this is open internationally (yay!) Giveaway ends Sunday, July 18th.
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175 comments:

  1. This is a great giveaway! =D I really want to read this book! =D

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  2. I've already entered the contest, but I just wanted to say thanks to Kaitlin for hosting this, and thanks to Courtney for such an amazing insight into character profiles :D I'm so so so pumped for Angelfire!

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  4. Thank you for the contest!! So true about needing a little complexity in characters :)

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  5. "Douchebag sex pest" is my new favorite term. AWESOME. I've seen this book mentioned around, but now that I hear the synopsis I really want to read it!

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  7. Awesome post!

    Can't wait to be introduced to Will and Cadan!

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  8. "Give your good guy a bit of an edge to keep our hearts pounding, and make sure your bad boy isn’t just a douchebag sex pest...???"

    Awesome!Thanks for the giveaway!

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  9. I entered--but honestly, as psyched as I am about your book, I'm much more into this topic! It's a great one to address.

    I think that part of it has to be that you give female characters agency and backbone--you don't want to support the myth of the submissive heroine!

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  10. Great post.Thanks for the giveaway.

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  11. Great post! And I love your cover Courtney :D Can't wait to read this one.

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  13. This is an awesome post. I totally agree with not letting your characters be defined by small, boxy roles. Thanks so much for the giveaway! :)

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  14. Great Post and Giveaway, thanxs for make it international ^^

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  15. This is such a great post. I really hope, when people read my characters that they don't automatically label my guys as good or bad.

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  16. I love the cover of this book! : ) And such a fun idea: not always having to choose a good guy or a bad boy. That makes them sound so predictable! And people aren't THAT predictable. lol.
    Thanks for the giveaway.

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  17. Clever title and a clever premise. I like that the idea is to make the character realistic- a blend of good and bad. Can't wait for this book's release!

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  18. The book sounds great--I like that your male MC is a badass, but a little bit awkward in real life--SOOOO endearing!

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  19. I love the cover and what an evocative and mysterious title, I can't wait to read it! :-)

    Thank you for the fantastic giuveaway and especialyl for making it international!!

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  20. Wow, can't wait to read this book - it looks soo awesome =D
    Thanks for the giveaway ^^

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  21. This book sounds awesome! I'd love to read it!

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  22. I agree full-heartedly with your post. I mean, I've just been seeing way too many of those tropes in YA. Seriously, there really isn't a good clear good-guy/bad boy delineation to us. :p

    Thanks for the contest!

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  23. Definitely. I think a perfect example of this middle road in male heroes is Robin Hood. He's a bad boy, but for a good reason :-)

    Check out the book giveaways tumblr here: http://bookgiveaways.tumblr.com

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  24. I actually laughed out loud at "douchebag sex pest". If I don't win, I'm buying this book as soon as it's out, purely for that reason :P. Plus, the cover is so pretty! I love it. I'm really excited to read this.

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  25. I. Hear. You.
    Seriously, it's either the jerk or the saint..where's the inbetween?
    Love, love, love this post!
    Love, love, love the sound of your book!

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  26. I love my hero's tortured and conflicted and interesting. Just one or the other gets boring!

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  27. Thanks for highlighting the middle ground; I've never been a fan of so called bad boys but many times it seemed like that was all there was or else the "good guys" were super lame. We need more realistic guys to swoon over in fiction!

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  28. I completely agree! That's one of the reasons I hate love triangles so much because it's always separated into the good reliable guy vs the hot not so good bad ass who often times treats the girl like dirt. >.< I like good hearted bad-asses though. ^.^ Douchebag sex pest. *giggles* Love it!

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  29. Hey ! Thanks for the awesome giveaway and great interview :D

    ~Alison

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  30. I see life in shades of gray, no ones is just good or bad ^^

    Thanks for the guest post Courtney, can't wait to read Angelfire!

    I think I might have double click the send button when I filled the form, I hope it wasn't sent twice =/

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  31. Sounds great. The best romantic leads are always that mix of good with a hint of bad...makes them much more interesting!

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  32. Great post and great giveaway!

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  33. I agree. What really makes a book is when the characters are complex, not just cardboard 'good guys' and 'bad guys.'

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  35. I like the cover...cant wait to read the book..

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  36. I'll do my blog post tomorrow (I had already posted something today, and you gotta spread the posts out!).

    I had a really hard time with well-rounded male characters when I started my novel. Everyone was either good and sympathetic, or evil and antagonistic. Hopefully, their current incarnations are a little more balanced.

    Angelfire sounds really gripping, I'd love to win it.

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  37. I love this post about "option C" guy. My all time favorite character is Jamie Fraser in Outlander. He's exactly that - bad to the bone and good at heart. Now I really want to read Angelfire!

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  38. Holy moly I want to read this book so fricken bad! It sounds amazing, and then just look at that cover--> AMAZING:D

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  39. great post, courtney! sign me up for a three-dimensional good boy with an edge.

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  40. The option c is great! Isn't that what Angel was from BtVS?!?
    I'm very interested in reading Angelfire, and I like that you have considered the fact that 'bad boy vs. good boy' might not be the only way to go!

    Thanks to CA Moulton for the giveaway, and YA Highway for hosting!

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  41. I like a mixture of both a good/bad guy in my leading man. ;)

    I'm looking forward to reading ANGELFIRE!!!

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  42. I personally LOVE the bad boy look, but not the attitude that stereotypically comes with it. So my option C tends that way a lot LOL.

    Great giveaway and REALLY looking forward to the book release :)

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  43. Eh, I'm a sucker for a good guy. Bad boys really bug me. I don't mind REFORMED bad boys. But guys that are still jerks have no appeal. Great giveaway, thanks!

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  44. I completely agree. I think my favorite characters in general are the ones who seem real, who have more depth to them than I'm expecting at first. I love it when characters I think will be "bad boys" turn out to have heart and characters I think will be sickenly sweet turn into something a little not so nice. It just makes reading - and life - more interesting! Great post!

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  45. YES! The good guy who is also a bad ass! I so can't wait to read Angelfire!! Thanks for the giveaway!

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  46. Love a good guy with a badass edge! We should have more of those in real life!
    Thank you for the giveaway! I'm really looking forward to reading this book :D

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  47. There is a 99% chance that I am meeting Courtney next week! I can't wait to read her book!

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  48. The DesertLioness wishes to read this book!!!

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  49. Thank you for the contest!!

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  50. Please I need this book!!!
    I'm from Brazil =)

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  51. It's hard to believe that I never knew there was an option C, but I know now that I'm a fan of Option C ;)

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  52. I love Option C, but what about option D a bad boy with a good heart?

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  53. I totally agree with you. I hate it when there are shallow characters... the ones with the edges and faults and strength are way more fun. I also like bad boys that have a reason for their badassery. *g*

    Thanks for the giveaway!

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  55. Option C is much more appealing than the black or white option of being either a good or bad guy. I love that last line. "Douche sex pest." LOL. Ahh, awesome. Fabulous guest post and thanks for the awesome giveaway!

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  56. I am follower +1

    I tweeted +1

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    nick: Mandarina
    name: Noemí Sapiña
    mail: noemisapi@gmail.com

    thank you for this giveaway!!

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  57. I'm all for Option C. Gorgeous pics by the way.

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  58. Courtney, I love what you said about making guys real, not either good or bad. So few books do that these days in YA lit. The only one I can really think of that I have read lately is Jay in Kimberly Derting's Body Finder, Jay came off real because he wasn't perfect, and he made mistakes. I love what you wrote here and look forward to reading Angelfire!

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  59. Great post. Angelfire sounds good.

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  60. sorry if multiple comments show up, blogger's acting up for me today...

    Anyway. I'd love to read Angelfire--it sounds pretty darn cool!

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  61. I vote Option C, absolutely! :)

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  62. I am all about "choice C" as well. You still want a good guy, who has edge. No one wants to date a goodie-two shoes or a guy who is a complete jerk, you want a mixture of the two. Great giveaway as well :)

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  63. I love this post! I am so sick of all-good and all-bad. I'm Team Option-C!

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  64. There IS an option C. There's always two sides to a coin, methinks. Even with boys (alien, but still with two sides).

    Thanks for the giveaway! Fingerscrossed!

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  65. It's so true, some girls let guys disrespect them. Great post and giveaway!

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  66. YAYAYAYA This Book looks AWESOME!!!

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  67. I guess I prefer bad boys but not the stereo type ones. People always make incredebly bad at first then at the end of the story he becomes good again. What I love about bad boys is the fact that they have a life unlike good guys, they're not afraid to take a risk. Good Guys usually just stay on the safe zone. :) Plus, bad boys are kinda more protective that good guys. BAD BOYS ARE SOOO HAWTT!!! :)) Anyway... Great contest! This is really nice! I really can't wait for ANGELFIRE! It looks AWESOME!!! :)

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  68. I've never really thought much about a third category...hm...
    Awesome giveaway! I'm dying for this book!

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  69. I'm loving the cover and synopsis! Thanks for the giveaway :)

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  70. I love the good guy who can still be a badass if necessary and doesn't disrespect the girl. Can't wait to read this book!

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  71. "Give your good guy a bit of an edge to keep our hearts pounding, and make sure your bad boy isn’t just a douchebag sex pest."

    AGREED.

    Great post Courtney! And thanks for the giveaway. :D

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  72. Great giveaway and post! I always thought another character category was needed.

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  73. OMG, Will sounds so yummy! I love good guys who are also badasses. Me likey. Me wanty! :D

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  74. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with this post. I get really tired of the good guy/bad guy stereotypes, too. They're incredibly unrealistic, yet it's amazing how many books buy into that. Maybe that's why I'm such a sucker for Mr. Darcy--he stands up for himself, but he's a good guy who really only wants the best for Lizzie.

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  75. Fantastic Post! I totally want a good guy that's badass :)

    Team Gale :) (sorry, I'm a little focused on the Mockingjay Launch Party I just got an email about). Ah!

    But Hunger Games is a great example of two love interests that are book good guys who just happen to be badass, with an even more badass heroine. No wonder we love it.

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  76. At first I thought this was just another fallen angel book, but now I really want to read it. Great post!

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  77. It's so true. I taught high school for 5 years, and it's incredible the ideas girls have about guys. Courtney is right, we very much need to be providing REALISTIC guys in our writing, guys we would want our friends or our kids looking at.

    Great post!

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  78. Keeping fingers crossed (and now that I'm older I SO regret the time I wasted on bad boys!)

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  79. The art looks very familiar!

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  80. I'm very excited about this book. The giveaway is actually making me more excited!

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  81. Great post. I needed help with my stupid guy character anyways...he's too boring...too "good guy". gonna add some badass-ness to him!

    Anyways, the book sounds interesting.

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  82. Thank you so much, everyone! I'm glad you enjoyed the post!

    Sarah, that is a huge reason why I love Robinhood too! My favorite superhero is Batman also. Such fantastic characters!

    Liz.R LMAO!! =P

    Ky, I agree. I am not a fan of love triangles. Maybe some tension here and there, but a full blown OMG WHO???? drives me crazy =P I have no idea who to pick in Hunger Games!

    Emily, reformed bad boys FTW!! Have you checked out Lisa Desrochers's PERSONAL DEMONS? Holy crap... LUC is all I have to say!! =P

    Mel, I just got THE BODY FINDER I can't wait to read it! I've heard such great things about it!

    Thanks, Suzie! How are able to choose! One minute I'm Team Gale..the next I'm Team Peeta.. ugh! So about this Mockingjay launch party.... ;-) haha!

    Diana, the artwork for the book were all commissioned by an amazingly talented artist who has done a number of my characters. She's fantastic!

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  83. Awesome post! This book sounds amazing; absolutely cannot wait to read it!

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  84. great post . I can't wait to read the book!!!

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  85. I like option C. A good guy who's a bad***. A knight in rusting armor?

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  86. Will sounds like my kind of guy! But I can see your view on the whole good guy/ bad guy situation and I feel that if you don't *want* your character to be inmmeadiately categorized into one of those groups you need to meet middle grounds. Thanks for the giveaway!

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  87. Definitely like the guys in books to be a mix - they are definitely more human that way :)

    Great giveaway! Thanks for hosting!


    Check out my BEA BONANZA BOOK GIVEAWAY!

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  88. Count me in to this contest ! i would really like to read it :)

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  89. Love this post. I support Option C 100%. And thanks for the giveaway!

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  90. Thanks for the awesome contest.

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  91. The cover of this book is gorgeous! I'm sure it's awesome inside too ;)

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  92. I'm with you--I like the good guys with a touch of bad assness to them. It makes them tough and vulnerable at the same time. Plus, it adds layers to the character.

    Sounds like a great book!

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  93. Haha! I loved the ending line. I'm all for option C.
    Thanks for the givaway Angelfire sounds awesome.

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  94. Awesome giveaway! Really want to read this book. :)

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  95. I 100% agree with this. I'm kinda getting tired of guys being categorized as either a bad guy/jackass or a nice guy/push over. Why can't there be a happy medium? We kind of see that alpha males--they're badass, but they're not ALWAYS a jerk. In fact, they're little pussy cats around the ones they care for.

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  96. I love the cover! Thanks for the contest!

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  97. Oh this book is on my want list, I'd love to win it!

    Thanks,
    Froggy

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  98. Awesome post, Courtney! I think I need to work on making my good guys with a little more faults. I tend to lean towards good guys in my own works.

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  99. I can't wait to read this book! It sounds amazing!

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  100. Why do you torment me, Courtney Allison Moulton?! It was bad enough when there was just one ARC I had practically no chance of winning - now another to raise my hopes? ARGH!

    (P.S. Your points about rape culture = win. So sick of seeing jerks rewarded in certain YA books. Good on you for rejecting that crap).

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  101. Awesome post! I can't wait to read this book...thank you for the contest!

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  102. Ah im so excited
    *crosses fingers*

    Thanks for tue giveaway!

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  103. Thanks for the giveaway! Really anticipating this book!!

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  104. I would really love to read your book! Sounds great.

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  105. Gosh this is an amazing giveaway!!
    Good luck everyone, and I hope you will appresiate this as much as I would!!

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  106. Of course, all the best literary guys fall into Option C. Characters that are all good or all bad are boring... it the real ones that are compelling!

    Sara @ The Hiding Spot

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  107. Great post! Thank you for the giveaway. I cant wait for this book! :D

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  108. Sounds like a great book! I really don't like the jerk bad boys that seem to have no good side to them! I like guys that are sweet but tough.

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  109. Thank you very much for the giveaway!!

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  110. great post and thanks for the giveaway!

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  111. I admit I am someone who always falls for the "bad boy". I am getting sick of only two options for a love interest though. I can't wait to read about Will!

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  112. It's true, if you end up going to far ether way it get's WAY to producible!
    Grate contest too!

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  113. Great giveaway! Sounds like an awesome book.

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  114. thank you for this giveaway!! :D

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  115. and yes, option c is great :D I love good guys with some badass-ness, or some bad-ish guys who is actually a good guy. LOL

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  116. Oh yeah! My love is for option C. I love the character with real life experience and who has not only an edge but is nitty gritty too!=)



    I am looking forward to cracking the spin on Angelfire!

    Aloha and mahalo!!

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  117. Cool giveaway.I really hope I win. This book is going to be epic!

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  118. I haven't read the book yet but why am I leaning towards Cadan already? I HEART this post. Book & Guys? Can't get any better than that!

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  120. love the post! thanks for the giveaway! :)

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  121. sounds great! thx for the giveaway!

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  122. Wonderful guest post and giveaway! I am so excited for Angelfire!

    xx,
    E.J.

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  126. I totally agree. Real people is not good OR bad, everyone has flaws!

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  127. I'm glad someone is thinking about an option C. It's boring just to be with the good guy or the bad guy, in reality it's not that way.

    Thanks for this giveaway! I'm dying to read this book, sounds excellent!

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  128. I'd definitely take option C - a little unpredictability is nice! Thank you for the giveaway =)

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  129. Great post and thank you for this AWESOME giveaway! :)

    Giada M.

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  130. I LOVE this post! As a mom who reads many different genres and a lot of YA, I sometimes have trouble over-looking those "bad boys" and how horribly they treat the heroines and those who surround her. What could anyone find remotely sexy about a controlling guy who basically becomes your whole life? ICK! There is some truly GREAT YA work out there that have some really great characters and I can't wait to read ANGELFIRE and meet this new incredible character, Will!

    Thank you for this amazing opportunity to win such a great prize!

    astewart305(at)rogers.com

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  132. This is a fun giveaway :) I really wanna read this book.

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  133. Awesome giveaway! I am dying to read Angelfire!!!

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  134. I Love this cover, that alone makes me want to read this book. =) That and it sounds awesome too!

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  135. Another fab giveaway! Thanks. :)

    (Now if I could just win.)

    Great post by Courtney, and I agree with her completely.

    Love,
    Lola

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  136. I vote Bad Boys :D They always seem to be really nice at the end.

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  137. Good guy for me. They make great husbands :D

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  138. Some really good points and tips LOL. This was a funny post. Thank you for the giveaway! This book looks really good LOL

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  140. Love the cover! When I write I never sit down and say oh he's the good guy or the bad guy, so I totally agree.

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  141. I love characters that are a little more complicated and conflicted.
    Good boys can be so boring and bad guys are scary.

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  142. You nailed it. A good guy thats a bad ass. I really liked your post and agree that young women need to read a realistic version of male charecters.

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  143. An example of this would also be Dimitri, from the Vampire Academy books. He's tough and a great fighter but also caring and protective.

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  144. Cool giveaway! Thank you! I wanna say that the art in this post is my favorite!

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  145. Thanxs for the awesome giveaway and making this international .it seems everyone goes for bad boys just sayin most :d What Fantastic artwork the cover is really amazing.I can't wait to read it !

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  149. I doubt I'll win but it's worth a shot. I really REALLY want this book. :D

    ~Briana

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  150. wonderful giveaway! I cant wait!

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  151. this book sounds interesting and i really want to read it. thanks for the giveaway :)

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  152. again, this book sounds awesome

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  153. Loving this giveaway. Thanks! Can't wait for this one

    -Lisa B.

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  154. Thanks for the great post and the giveaway

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  155. This is an awesome, awesome giveaway. First one I'm entering! Hope I have some beginner's luck on my side. :) Thanks so much--both for the giveaway and for addressing a topic I've been noticing lately in the fiction I'm reading. Why choose either when you can have the best of both worlds, eh?

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  156. Ooh. I would totally fall for a good guy who is a badass. Sounds right up my alley. Thanks for the generous giveaway!

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  157. Hmm, I definitely understand what you're saying, and I guess I agree that in fiction at least, I like my heroes good guy with a bit of badass-ishness to them. :) Or sometimes the bad-guy-turned-good can be cool as well, as cliched as it is!

    In real life... well, I remember an old crush I used to have in high school, and I'm glad he and I never ended up dating, because he was just so NICE... he was such a nice guy, all over, but to be honest I'd have just got bored. My partner now is a really great guy who doesn't have any "bad" features per se but isn't as all-American nice as my old crush... my partner has a slightly wicked (as in, wicked. Not as in, cool) sense of humour, and he's definitely not perfect, but overall he's just such a GOOD guy....

    I guess it's a nice guy with a little bit of spice to his character. ;) That's what most of us want, really, isn't it? :)

    Thanks for the giveaway by the way - AWESOME that it's international! Yayy! :)

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  158. Awesome post! I really loved this! And of course the giveaway too!

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  159. It's soo refreshing that you made your character different :)

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  160. Sounds like a great book. Thank you for the contest! ^_^

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  161. I really want this book!

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  164. i agree completely- things shouldn't always be black and white. it's nice to see a contrast in characters, but sometimes it's nice to have a guy who's both good AND badass to swoon about.

    thank you so much for the giveaway!

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  165. I am SO looking forward to this book now! I've been waiting for what seems like ever for the ARCs to get out so I can start reading some reviews and see what this is all about. I love it. Great contest, btw. It seems like the ARCs just got dispersed and here you are giving one away already. Way to build the frenzy!

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  166. This sounds awesome!! Thanks!! Great giveaway too :D!!

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  167. I love the post and giveaway! I can't wait to read this book.

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  168. We definitely more of the Option C. Though I do adore bad boys (in fiction...only fiction).

    Thanks for the giveaway too :D

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  169. A good guy who's a badass.. YES! Love it.

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  170. Beautiful cover and book, really! I want it!!

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  171. My good guys have a little bit of bad in them, and my bad guys...my bad guys have a lot of bad in them!

    Great post! and I thoroughly enjoyed the excerpts from Angelfire.

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  172. Great post. I am all about option C. Thanks for sharing!

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  173. http://twitter.com/DonnaS1/status/18815885052
    rt'd for 'ya!

    @FLboyzmom following ya

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  174. option C :)

    Sounds like my kind of book - and the cover art = brilliant

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  175. Give me a good guy with a bad bad streak, or a bad boy with a heart of gold any day! :D

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